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Ghost Story Prompts and meta

The Ghost Story spoiler period is expired; prompts, meta, discussion, etc. including Ghost Story spoilers can take place in the regular pages, but please consider your fellow fans, and continue to warn for spoilers. You can continue to use this post if you would like.

Change of plans, folks. Given the fact that Ghost Story spoilers are supposedly already floating around the web and the fact that there's an early limited release at Comic Con this weekend, we're going to start a Ghost Story specific post.

All GS related prompts, fills, discussion and meta go here so as to not spoil your fellow fans (at least the ones that don't want to be :D). All fills should follow posting guidelines, with the exception of GS meta going to the meta/discussion post. Questions? Ask the mods.

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In case it needs to be said. All comments to this post are read at the risk of spoilers.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-20 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Harry Dresden is made entirely of chocolate!

Meta for GS - Shooter's identity

(Anonymous) 2011-07-20 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
Weeeell, what did you think about the shooters identity? It felt really fitting to me, both who did it and why. One of those times Butcher's writing just clicked "yesplz" in my head.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-25 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
It felt a little pat for me. It did make sense, but Harry pegged it pretty fast and then hung onto with his conviction (which turned out to be right) without looking for a motive (which turned out to be essential).

Discussion: spoilers for GS

(Anonymous) 2011-07-25 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
So: Childs. He was set up as a Name with an Appearance but never really showed up in the story after his initial deployment. Obviously he's being set up for a larger role in the books to come.

He's also much more notable in appearance than the troubleshooter we met in Aftermath. So, is he being set up as Super Evil or more a mercenary type like Kinkaid?

(Anonymous) 2011-07-26 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
In retrospect I kind of took Harry's figuring it out early on, without any evidence at that point, to be the knowledge that he already had but was ignoring seeping through. I wasn't surprised by the shooter's identity, but I have to admit that the guy who hired the shooter kind of surprised me. Shouldn't have, but did.

Re: Discussion: spoilers for GS

(Anonymous) 2011-07-26 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm curious about Childs. He's new on the scene, to us anyway, but Marcone trusts him enough to leave him in charge while he's off in Italy or where ever? (And why's Marcone in Italy or where ever anyway?) Clearly we will be seeing more of him later. As it is, I suspect him of being up to no good. It's a fairly safe assumption, I know. :)
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Re: Discussion: spoilers for GS

[personal profile] cyprinella 2011-07-26 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
There were so many frickin' loose ends in this book. I know that Jim's setting up the next set of books and everything, but generally they don't seem so obvious (and if *I'm* noticing them on the first read, they're very obvious). I'm sort of surprised that Childs wasn't introduced in a short story published between Changes and GS since that's the usual MO with characters that sudden have more backstory than you thought.


(Anonymous) 2011-07-26 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
One of the things that got me the most were the memories of Harry's life with Justin. Especially the 'fight' with He Who Walks Behind.

So, the belief that everyone's (Harry) been working on is that HWWB was working for Justin and tried to kill Harry. But given the way the fight went, it does look more like HWWB was more interested in testing Harry, in driving him to a specific response and reaction. He wanted Harry to be ready to react with violence to threats first, rather than running away or trying to find another solution.

I'm torn between thinking that HWWB is just using Harry as a really big blunt instrument to help the master plan to return the Outsiders to this reality and thinking that there's more to this whole 'Outsider-bane' thing, where it could actually be used for the Outsiders somehow. Eh. I'm not even really torn between them. I think both are true.

Re: Discussion: spoilers for GS

(Anonymous) 2011-07-26 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
They were really obvious in this book. I think it was a lot of set up for all the crap that's going to explode later on.

I think Butcher didn't introduce Childs like he usually does so he's a huge question mark for a good while. I'm thinking he's either from Monoc or someone from Marcone's past. I lean more towards him being personally tied to Marcone more than being a loaner from Monoc just because of the level of trust involved in leaving some guy holding the reins of your criminal enterprise.
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Re: Discussion: spoilers for GS

[personal profile] cyprinella 2011-07-26 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
My brain has apparently decided that Childs is like that Bad Guy character from an early meme fill where the Bad Guy enthralls Marcone and becomes his "adviser". You're probably more right than I am, though.

First prompt is first

(Anonymous) 2011-07-26 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, the obvious one: I want the story after Changes and before Ghost Story where Harry and John have been in some sort of relationship, and John is going after Harry's killer. And his investigations somehow get him to either Kincaid or Molly, who end up telling him the whole story.

Re: Discussion: spoilers for GS

(Anonymous) 2011-07-26 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
My guess might be more likely, but yours is more awesome!

Discussion: Murphy

(Anonymous) 2011-07-26 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Woah. I'm doing my second read through now and...I don't know what to think about Murphy. I've liked her in all the books, even when she and Harry fight for stupid reasons, but this time it's just been strange.

Thomas wasn't mentioned because Harry was trying to repress him, but Murphy's shown a strange line to draw among Harry's allies. For the most part they're greater number but closer to the vanilla mortals, while Thomas and Molly are still supernaturally consorting.

Any Murphy thoughts?

Re: Discussion: spoilers for GS

(Anonymous) 2011-07-27 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
If this fill has a happy ending I think I'd like to see it.
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Re: Discussion: spoilers for GS

[personal profile] cyprinella 2011-07-27 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
http://archiveofourown.org/works/161092 Took me way too long to dig this up - I wanted to put it in my original comment! I need to tag my bookmarks better.

Prompt: Butters/Bob

(Anonymous) 2011-07-27 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
That's all. Just what it says on the tin. Maybe on a ride along, or whatever. But I can't be the only one thinking this!

Re: Discussion: Murphy

(Anonymous) 2011-07-27 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I hope that Butcher isn't setting her up for a fridging/face heel turn to make Molly more attractive as an eventual Perfect Partner for Harry. She seemed ... yeah. Not handling things as well as she should have been handling things.

Re: Discussion: Murphy

(Anonymous) 2011-07-27 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'm waiting to see if we get any more details on what they've been dealing with while Harry's been gone before I make up my mind about the changes we see in Murphy. I'm assuming there's been some massive things that have happened to make Murphy into GS Murphy.

Bob and Mister

(Anonymous) 2011-07-27 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Siince Harry is now for real the new Winter Knight I want peoples opinions on what you think will happen with Mister and Bob.

I know Mab has an issue with Bob. I know Mister was pleased to see Ghost Harry.

Do you think Harry will take them back or leave them with their current guards?

Anyway, thoughts please? ^__^


(Anonymous) 2011-07-27 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Or He Who Walks Behind was testing the Outsider-Bane thing. I assume that Margaret LeFay's allies might have known what she was trying to pull. (Whatever it was I do not know, but Harry was made to be Anti-Outsider-Venom)
So He Who Walks Behind and the other outsiders could really want Harry dead or plan on using his special bond with them to pull themselves over more than a normal mortal would be able to. I do not know.

Re: Bob and Mister

(Anonymous) 2011-07-27 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet that Bob stays with Butters for the time being, with consults on the sly. Also, Bob and Butters seem to make a really good team.

Re: Discussion: Murphy

(Anonymous) 2011-07-27 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, Murphy. I'm trying to tell myself that we're seeing a lot of it through Harry the Unreliable Narrator (especially now that he's had his head fucked with even more) and that the motives Harry ascribes to her probably aren't right (in hindsight, it reads like the biggest case of projecting ever) but man, some serious shit must have gone down in the last six months. Butters mentions that Things had looked like Harry to get to her before and I'm wonder if that happened again while he was gone. He made it sound like multiple instances, but for the life of me, I can only remember the Nightmare.


(Anonymous) 2011-07-27 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)

There was just something about the flashback, with the fight. HWWB going 'There you are.' and seeming so very, very pleased by whatever it was he was seeing. Harry's willingness to do violence? His temper? I don't know. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

I think the bond or connection with the Outsiders is going to be one of those things that cuts both ways. Harry really can control/influence Outsiders, but a power like that can't be all one way, can it?

Maggie Sr. was already working on some sort of plan with Papa Raith, and there's the whole, 'you know what he was meant to be' thing that the Council has going on about Harry. So I'm thinking that Harry's birth was planned while Maggie Sr. was on the dark side of the force. With, say, some random human as daddy. Then something happens that makes Maggie Sr. change sides. She runs away and, knowing that the good guys will need the power that the special kid will have, she goes through with the plan only without the kid being raised to be the future Evil Overlord or whatever. She intends for him to be raised by regular old humans, leaving him free to choose, only with the influence of Malcolm, who is such a really nice guy, she thinks he'll err on the side of the light. (Also, it's possible I've read Good Omens one too many times and it's influencing this theory.) But things don't go exactly to plan, of course. However, since Harry still exists, he can still be used for whatever it is that the dark side needs him for. They just have to apply the correct pressures and work around his unfortunate, for them, personality. So they plan on using him and killing him after he's outlived his usefulness. That's my really nebulous theory.

Re: Bob and Mister

(Anonymous) 2011-07-27 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they'll stay where they are, at least for the near future. Harry's running around as Winter Knight, and unless I'm remembering things wrong, everyone still thinks that Harry's dead. He vanished from their perceptions right after the fight with Corpsetaker and he was fading before that. So they think his ghost finished the left over business and has dissipated.

That revelation is going to hurt, I think. The longer it goes before they find out, the more pissed off people are going to be that he didn't drop them a line or something.

On the other hand, the first Accords meeting with Harry making his appearance as Winter Knight should be entertaining.

Harry in Maggie's life?

(Anonymous) 2011-07-27 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think he'll be involved with her? Will he be cool uncle Harry? Hell, to answer that we'd need to come to a conclusion about who all will know he's alive. Will he live in Chicago again? I feel like he might not. He might just travel, doing Knight stuff. But if he DOES stay in Chicago, it seems like someone would manage to figure out that he's Maggie's dad and use her against him, so it kind of defeats the purpose of Maggie having a different family.

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