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Round Five by five, baby!

Round Five: Open!
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Read this first. Do it. There will be a test.

The Rules. Including the Posting Guidelines. aka:

In the first line of your fill*, you must include:

1) Character(s)/Pairing(s)/Threesome(s)/Moresome(s) as applicable.
2) Any kinks included. Please take this to include scenarios, themes, etc. Use your imagination.
3) MANDATORY WARNINGS/CONTENT NOTES if there is dubcon or noncon, underage characters in sexual situations, major character death, suicide, self-harm, and/or graphic descriptions or extensive discussions of abuse.
Please consider trigger warnings for any other widespread triggers in your fill, such as natural disasters, or specifying instances of harm, such as eating disorders.
Please don't conflate warnings and kinks; treat each individually, and use your pairings to indicate gen/het/slash/multi/&c. Do not warn for het, slash, or otherwise.

EXAMPLE:
Characters & Pairings: Mentions of Harry Dresden/John Marcone, but entirely nonsexual gen in this fic. Harry Dresden, John Marcone, Ebenezar McCoy, Thomas Raith, Justine, Listens to Wind, Mister, Mouse.
Kinks: kidfic, second childhood, age regression, family bonding, fish out of water, situational:age change, involuntary transformation
Content notes: no mandatory notes. Mentions of a previous sexual relationship between two adults, one of whom is now a child, but absolutely no sexual contact or content while said character is a kid. Veg*n trigger warning for death of an animal.

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Edit 5-14-15 So 3+ years later, the only comments this post is getting are spam comments. I've changed the settings to screen all comments to discourage that. If you leave a legit comment, I will unscreen it. Thanks, all. I had a great time.

abs

[personal profile] patrick_diomedes 2013-05-21 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
Somehow, Harry notices that Murphy has abs, and suddenly he's constantly distracted by "wow I want to touch them. Possibly with my mouth."

Prompt: The Dresden Stories

(Anonymous) 2013-05-23 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
So the fae must always tell the truth, and there might be subversions, or diversions, or avoiding things, but there's always an element of truth.
So... how do storytellers make a living in Faerie or anything?

How would being incapable of lying to themselves feel? How would knowing that the world is frankly, really bleak and there's no way to avoid that stark truth? Maybe this leads to creative sterility in a sense, because the Fae know truth and they don't see the point in creating anything when it's a lie, and they can't avoid it. People tell stories to pass the time, and even for magical beings like the Sidhe, how would embellishing stories feel like? How would they tell their stories? Epics don't really lend themselves to historical accuracies, and neither do verses. So what qualifies as human entertainment?

So maybe Harry sees Lea making deals with human artists, and how she keeps a collection of art, because in a way, all Fae envy the ability to lie to oneself. I mean, Harry once described ignorance as 'freaking orgasmic ecstasy'. Which is kinda twisted. The fact that human denial is a coveted gift, in a way.

Bonus if:
-someone mentions Mother Summer's point on how the human remnant of Sidhe reacts to stories.
-Harry spins a nice yarn and is promptly rewarded for it
-Mab even cuts him some slack.

Re: Prompt: The Dresden Stories

(Anonymous) 2013-07-24 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. That's...incredibly intriguing! Someone write this please!

Grendelkin/Teen!Virgin!Harry - noncon, possible mpreg

(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
Teen Harry has the bad luck of happening across a bored Grendelkin in it's matting season and learning that they don't need females to reproduce, only virgins.

(Or alternatively, if mpreg isn't your thing, it just wants to "have fun" with him.)

Harry's crazy is actually good for John.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Through the newest crazy in Harry's life he ends up in a parallel universe where he for one reason or another never moved to Chicago after he left the Missori.

He soon finds that Marcone, who is still Baron of Chicago somehow, without Harry in Chicago providing an example of just how hard some people, even supernaturally inclined people would go to try and do the right thing ends up a lot colder, more evil, and possibly a Dinarian.

When he gets back eventually he has some food for thought. But I would like him to get back somehow. Anything else is up to you. Although John/Harry is my OTP for this fandom.

Re: Harry's crazy is actually good for John.

[personal profile] velocitym1 2013-07-18 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'd like to see this as well.

Harry/Thomas, Harry/Thomas/Lord Raith - seduction, mind control

(Anonymous) 2013-06-01 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
AU where instead of attempting to kill him, Lord Raith rapes and enthralls Thomas just like his sisters, turning him into another perfectly obedient weapon of the White Court. When word of a dangerous new wizard in Chicago starts to spread, Lord Raith sends Thomas to bring him under his thrall and into the service of the white court.

It works at first, but Harry somehow knows/figures out he and Thomas are brothers and helps to fight for Thomas to overcome the compulsion he's under to serve his father. He makes some progress but Lord Raith realizes what's going on- and that Harry is yet another or Margret's sons.

When they comfort and try to kill him, he easily overpowers them both and smoothly brings them under his control.

Codex alera -1 collar

(Anonymous) 2013-06-03 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
What if Bernard didn't put a collar on amara

Percy Jackson crossover, Too Nice for His Weight Class

(Anonymous) 2013-06-08 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Because let's face it, Percy is pretty heavy hitter as far as being living in the normal world full-time go. So there is this half-god kid who can make tsunamis and hurricanes and earthquakes with a wave of the hand, breath underwater, sea creatures do his bidding (and spy for him, the things aquarium fish hear!) and he's invulnerable to top it all off. No match for a Faerie Queen, but, say, but vampires and overachieving necromanmcers and such? Can do and will do.

And he's so nice and decent he seriously creeps people out. Everybody keeps trying to figure out what the catch is because there HAS to be one, right? Only vanilla humans do the spirit of the law, right? So Percy's trying to be helpful and everybody's paranoid.

Bonus: He is really scary when looked with Sight, but Soulgaze is something else entirely. Accidental Soulgaze reveals the truth to a wizard of your choice and then they scare the merry hell out of everyone by being so familiar and careless.

Bonus two: Venatori is bothered by the fact that he's the grandson and great-grandson of an abomination (Cronus and Uranos) but can't do anything because the gods don't take too well to upstart mostly-mortals going systematically genocide on their offspring. It's the principle of the thing even if they don't happen to be that fond of said offspring. And Poseidon is.

Five people who thought that Harry Dresden lacks any and all self-preservation instincts

(Anonymous) 2013-06-28 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
And one who saw what he saw in Percy Jackson.

Ebenezar McCoy

Ebenezar knew what Perseus Jackson looked like before he met the young demigod. While the children of the capricious Olympian Pantheon weren't the White Council's business per se, Martha Liberty kept an eye on them all the same. Ebenezar knew that Perseus Jackson had command over tidal waves and storms, tsunamis and even earthquakes. He had seen the news footage of the erupting Mt.Helen and he had heard the whispers of the boy killed three Red Court vampire nobles without sweating - and after he had faced Cronus, was that any surprise? There was some confusion over who had killed the mortal incarnation of Titan in the end, but Jackson was the one hailed the hero of the battle.

Ebenezar had heard that Jackson was so favoured by his father that the court had decided to pretend really hard the whole interaction hadn't happened and let bygones be bygones. The Greek Gods were all infamous for their vindictive natures when wronged and Poseidon wasn't any different than the rest. The story of Medea, King Minos, the King of Troy and Odysseus' curse fine examples of that. Also, there was the minor matter of swimming in River Styx and becoming invulnerable, which those vampire nobles had proved true by breaking their tooth, a sword and a hail of bullets at Jackson's skin.

Yes, Ebenezar knew what Jackson looked like. This was why he was so startled to walk into his grandson's office only to find said demigod sitting there and Harry nowhere to be seen. He knew Harry very well after all. And while he showed at least modicum of common sense while dealing with the Faerie Queens and other beings of great power, if he let Jackson's youthful appearance deceive himself...

"I'm sorry, I didn't know you had an appointment, Harry," Jackson said and stood to shake Ebenezar's hand. "I'm Percy Jackson, it's nice to meet you." He smiled like he wasn't roughly analogical to a Red Court vampire before their first kill.

"The pleasure is mine, Mr. Jackson. My name is McCoy and I am the one who didn't have an appointment, I fear. May I ask where Mr. Dresden?" he inquired.

"I don't know. Someone called Murphy called to him and wanted to talk about something. I was here already so Dresden just left to see her outside. Didn't you see them?" A note of worry entered Jackson's voice, but Ebenezar had to suppress a wince. Harry had just stood up a demigod. Of course.

"I apologize for his lack of manners," Ebenezar said, but Jackson simply waved his hand.

"It's not like called before coming, it's all right. I just came to talk about a favour he owes me..." Ebenezar did wince now. "...teach the Hecate cabin. His fire spells would be great for that. It's all those monsters we have to fight, you see?"

"Are you expecting any monster attacks?" Ebenezar asked and kept his face only politely interested while looking at the young man very keenly. He had heard Martha speculating that demigods only grew more powerful with age and while that wasn't immediately relevant, that only seemed to underline how strong Jackson was - and how young, not even eighteen years old. He had fought in a war of gods before he could legally drive or drink.

"They can't get to the camp, don't worry, and if any did, Peleus would eat them. He's a dragon and one of the guardians there. And I wouldn't let him get hurt; he's my responsibility since I'm taking him there."

Ah. Xenia, the guest-friendship of the ancient Greeks. It had two rules. First, the respect from host to guest. The host had to be hospitable to the guest and provide them with food and drink and a bath if required and shelter and protection as necessary. But the second rule required respect from guest to host. The guest had to be courteous to the host, not be a burden - and NOT insult them at all. Ebenezar knew he couldn't really interfere. He owed his duty to the White Council and he had to think its best, step lightly. In this case Harry had made his own bed, again.

But if the silly boy survived this, they would have a long conversation about the kind of people he should ask favours from.

Game of Thrones Crossover

(Anonymous) 2013-06-08 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Plot device occurs and one or more of the Dresden Files characters end up stranded in Westeros.

+Harry (and Mouse) becomes a forest hermit, occasionally helping out the Brotherhood without Banners. (And thus meeting up with Arya)

+Murphy masquerades as a man and joins a Kings/Queensguard. Brofeels with Brienne.

+Marcone founds his own Free City/take over a castle and attendant lands.

+TravelingHealer!Butters accidentally turns Robb gay.
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Re: Game of Thrones Crossover

[personal profile] 11thmirror 2013-07-03 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
I have never watched or read Game of Thrones, so I would not essay writing anything in the relevant 'verse...
But that doesn't preclude silly doll maker shenanigans.
So, behold! http://24.media.tumblr.com/94ef1607d3dcc88995a3bab774c4836a/tumblr_mpcw8b6fwU1rpvuv2o1_1280.jpg

No Butters because... well, I would say it's because I don't have a suffeciently clear mental image of him, but really it's just that I forgot.

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for variety's shake

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 11:00 am (UTC)(link)
and my love for this character...


Slash, Any male but harryxJohn Marcone *cough*prefersub/bottommarcone*cough*

/Run/

Re: for variety's shake

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
OOOPS anon fail, haha. you didn't see that.
I meant, marcone with any male other than harry.

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"Gentleman" Johnny Marcone

(Anonymous) 2013-06-24 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
Johnny Marcone's 'Gentleman' title is actually entirely sarcastic, he's more of the Psy style 'Gentleman' than the traditional sort.

Do whatever you like, no preference for pairings/porn. xD
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Daddy of Dragons

[personal profile] 11thmirror 2013-07-05 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Harry ends up with one or more dragon eggs (whatever magical rules you want to work with here, it's fine by me). Then, by the usual process, he ends up with one or more baby dragons. And they love their daddy!

Minifill: Father of Dragons

(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Characters: Harry, Puff the Magic Dragon, Elliot the (sometimes) Invisible Dragon, Smaug the Terrible, Mouse, Mister.
Kinks: Father of Dragons Harry.
Warnings: None.

It was hard being a single father with triplets. He hadn't even gotten to do the fun part -unless it had been a really, really fun part and he didn't even remember it- which usually leads to the formation of ankle biters. Mouse seemed to be taking things in stride, though, herding the little monsters as Mister looked on from the top of a bookshelf, and teaching them that furniture was not to be chewed on. The only good thing about the situation, Harry mused, was that no one he knew had ever read Anne McCaffery's Pern novels.

Though if Thomas called him Khaleesi one more time he'd dracarys his Incubus ass brother or no.

"Puff! Stop chewing on Smaug's face or so help me-!" Harry shouted as he stepped out of his mysteriously warm shower - or not so mysterious, as Elliot had built himself a nest on the water heater- and brandished his blasting rod at the gray-scaled dragonet. Puff immediately released his brother and let out a shrill whistling-like noise, batting his eyes innocently in a who, me? like way.

Smaug padded over and shouldered Harry's shins. Dripping, Harry lifted his youngest cradled him to his chest. The red dragons snout attempted to bury itself in his hair. He patted Smaug's stubby wings.

Harry used his pointer and middle fingers to gesture to his eyes, and then at Puff. "I'm watching you."

Elliot came waddling out of the water closet. She chirped something that sounded suspiciously like "Mama!"

The white scaled dragon then dropped a rat the size of a small terrier at his his feet as Mister looked on like a proud papa.

Next time, Harry promised himself he was not going to take any cases that involved stolen 'faberge' eggs.

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Reincarnation

(Anonymous) 2013-07-08 10:13 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think I've seen this prompted, but I have a massive weakness for super sappy romantic reincarnation stories. Something angsty with love and loss and confusion.

So the prompt is two souls, true love torn apart, doomed to live and die over and over again finding each other.

John/Harry is my OTP, but any pairing is welcome.



+100 John has retained his memory over the ages - which provided him with the experience and wisdom that allowed him to take over the Chicago Outfit (and later to navigate the Supernatural world). This was the reason he is such an all round BAMF.
+100000 If no one else actually has any clue of any of this (maybe aside from Vadderung, who has certain suspicioins) and just thinks of 'John Marcone' as simply a very peculiar mortal - which he really is, this time around.
+10000000000 For unrequited love, simply at first (much preferred) or even for their whole lifetime.

Re: Reincarnation

(Anonymous) 2013-07-19 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
oh anon I feel like I know you.
I think i've read something like this on tumblr with johnny/harry. I... forgot if it's a fanfic or something else...

but yes, seconded

John Marcone is a pretty cool guy...

(Anonymous) 2013-07-10 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
... he runs Chicago and doesn't afraid of anything.

(Aaaaaaaaaand... go.)

marcone/dresden - unrequited love, pining

(Anonymous) 2013-07-11 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
There's been a lot of in denial Harry who 'oppresses' his bisexuality. What about a world where Marcone's assumptions about Harry's sexuality are correct? Harry is 100% straight.

Dresden has no interest in Marcone whatsoever, and Marcone knows it. But it doesn't stop him from wanting.

Human!Firefighter!AU - John/Harry/Hendricks

(Anonymous) 2013-07-16 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
John Marcone and Nathan Hendricks are firefighters. Harry is their sassy dispatcher.

So, naturally, Murphy and Gard start a betting pool.

Or, the one where Hendricks and Marcone are pining/plotting to trip their dispatcher into bed with them, Gard and Murphy are bros, Thomas is a meddler, Mouse makes an awesome mascot, and the rest of Fire Department has to suffer through all of the UST.

And somehow, Harry still manages to light things on fire.

Re: Human!Firefighter!AU - John/Harry/Hendricks

(Anonymous) 2013-07-17 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
YES! please?

It's all in his head -- Harry/Lash

[personal profile] velocitym1 2013-07-18 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
okay so during Dead Beat, we learn that Harry's inner self has been talking to Lash behind Harry's back. Well, I'm thinking there was a bit more then just talking going on. Bonus for evil!Harry (sort of) and dominance struggles.
Edited 2013-07-18 02:55 (UTC)

Harry/Marcone

(Anonymous) 2013-07-18 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Harry/Marcone inspired by the song Gentlemen Aren't Nice by Emilie Autumn.

Found these interesting little gems in the meta thread.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
"I’d pay to see Harry being introduced to a gay couple who stuck around in the narrative, being all supportive and loving and domestic around him. Because I don’t trust Jim Butcher to actually write it, but I have happy visions of this really bizarre ‘Let he who is without sin’ rationale crumbling into dust as Harry gets all starry eyed about this imaginary couple and white picket fences in the same way he does the Carpenters. " by grenegome

and its reply

"I like this plan! Because oh Harry. Trailing around after them like the awkwardest little brother, stars in his eyes and a giant pedestal, pretending he has it too in that ridiculously jealous way he gets around the Carpenters." by Binz

And the couple in question would be ridiculously kind to him because, hello, this poor young man has issues and thus clearly needs things to be patiently explained to him in such a way that can get through his thick skull, but the issues really aren't completely his fault and have to do with his 'repression is coping' mechanism.

I feel this needs to be a prompt. A Hilariously cracky prompt.

Re: Found these interesting little gems in the meta thread.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-30 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
WANT. ALL THE WANT.

...Please? *bats eyelashes*

Again, utterly hilarious thing on meta thread ...small change for favors

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
" if they continue trading tiny items for favours, I shall be terribly amused." by grenegome.

Followed up with anon's

"They should! And Mab can quietly despair of Harry practically giving his favors away and complain to Lea about how she should have taught Harry better bargaining skills."

and grenegome's reply of
"...this is like the High Sidhe equivalent of being told he's too easy, isn't it? Oh god, they start frisking him for small change before he leaves the house."

Now, someone for the love of all things good and cracky, please write it!
Especially Lea's reactions to Mab's complaints.

I screwed your apprentice!

(Anonymous) 2013-07-23 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I would like Kincaid to say this to Ebenezar. It doesn't have to be word for word, it can be anything as long as it gets the idea across. It doesn't have to be true, but I'd like it if it was. I just want Kincaid trying to piss off Ebenezar, or possibly just distract him, and Ebenezar's reaction to this news.

Re: I screwed your apprentice!

(Anonymous) 2013-07-23 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Based on Kincaid's reaction to Eb's presence in Blood Rites, I'm not sure he'd be this suicidal. Unless he said it quietly, just as something loud happened.

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Humans are dangerous too

(Anonymous) 2013-07-24 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd like to see Harry get caught by a plain ol' vanilla mortal. Maybe a crook thinks he can blackmail Murphy or some jealous boyfriend has a problem with Thomas. I just want to see someone saving Harry. (No Marcone please, he's got plenty of prompts of his own)

Pacific Rim crossover

(Anonymous) 2013-07-26 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Wherein Harry Dresden and John Marcone are Jaeger Pilots, protecting the city of Chicago. May or may not have magic-capable Jaegers, and Outsiders as the Kaiju.

Anyone interested?

Re: Pacific Rim crossover

(Anonymous) 2013-07-27 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
that... would be hella difficult to write. but also awesome.
the one who sending the monster actually from the nevernever?
and... and... maybe the robot actually join technology/magic hybrid that vadderung have come up with?

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What If Thomas Raith also had a Fairy Godmother?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-26 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
How would things have changed if he had a Sidhe for a Godmother? Perhaps even sharing Lea with Harry?

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-26 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, now I'm imagining Maggie having made Nicodemus Thomas's godfather. And Harry finding out.

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MORE VADDERUNg/MARCONE

(Anonymous) 2013-07-27 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
...please?

Dresden is totally a tsundere for Marcone.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
Methinks the wizard protests too much. And Marcone figures this out.