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[personal profile] silverdusk 2011-05-04 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Tell me if this issue has been addressed before, either by JB, in canon, or elsewhere on the internet (wouldn't be the first time I missed something), but after reading all the meta on what was going on with Harry while he was at Ebenezer's, I got wondering: what did he do with Bob during those years? NO ONE knows about Bob, right? Which means Ebenezer doesn't know about him. So what did Harry do, keep Bob tucked away in a box for three/four years? If not, how much of an influence on Harry would Bob have been? Keeping in mind that, at this point, Bob would still have been Justin-influenced and therefore not the perverted skull we all know and love today.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-04 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Harry mentions he hid Bob somewhere while he was at McCoy's--as in, he buried him in a hole or something. I'll check my RPG manual later tonight and see if I can confirm.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-05 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, here's the exchange:

Bob: Harry, you buried me in a dank hole for however many years you were down in Hog Hollow with McCoy!
Harry: For your own good, Bob.

I take this to mean they didn't interact much while Harry was at McCoy's, if at all.

[personal profile] silverdusk 2011-05-06 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, okay.

It makes me curious though. If Harry had interacted with Bob whilst at Ebenezer's, would he have been different at all? If so, how much and in what ways?

(Anonymous) 2011-05-05 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Kind of related to that, I was listening to my Grave Peril audiobook today and Bob mutters a line about wanting to redo his contract, to which Harry blithely replies that sure, they can redo Bob's contract - right as soon as they go into the NeverNever.

Which really makes me wonder because a) what did Harry have to offer at age 15 to get Bob to want to enter into a contract with him to begin with and b) how did Harry get Bob into the NeverNever back then? Did he make his contract with Bob when he made his deal with his godmother? Are the two events somehow connected?

Curious minds and all of that!

(Anonymous) 2011-05-05 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'd always read that as a Harry-typical uber-sarcastic comment to the tune of 'there is no contract so let's joke about another unlikely thing aka Bob going into the Nevernever'.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-05 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. I don't think Harry and Bob have a contract, just an owner-and-skull relationship.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-05 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I've always thought their contract went something along the lines of "tick me off and I'll smash you; give me good intel and I'll buy you porn."

...but that's just me. :)

(Anonymous) 2011-05-07 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I think I read that as a reference to the original contract with the many-centuries-ago wizard who first put Bob in the skull. There must have been some sort of formal deal there, given what we know about working with spirits, even if it was only "you take the binding spells and I don't destroy you, capisce?"

Whatever obligations are on Bob from that original deal seem to go along to whoever holds the skull (for possibly flexible definitions of 'hold') so presumably Harry inherited the 'contract' unchanged via Kemmler and Justin.

I've always been curious as to why Harry doesn't seem to show any interest in the conditions of Bob's bondage, beyond what he uses on a practical everyday level. Does he know enough to know he should leave well enough alone, or is it just more of his narratively convenient obliviousness, to be a plot point at some later date in the series? And I wonder how much Justin told them about Bob and how much he worked out on his own/with Bob's help.